Max Evidence 13 To Owen Clarke DRC

Max Evidence 13 To Owen Clarke DRC

To: "Owen Clarke"
From: Max Wallis
Date: 16/05/2013 16:06
Subject: Your intention for DRC to resolve conflict between JM and me

Dear Owen,

I see that neither my complaint against John Matthews nor the Cdf Branch resolution on my expulsion  came up at Saturday's WGP Council meeting as Ann had intended.

Did you bring the attention of Ann and the Council your proposal to instead take the matter to the DRC ?  And how does that square with the record in the draft Minutes that you voted for the motion for my suspension as newsletter editor?

Since they adopted the Local and regional complaints procedure amended to include the DRC,

there seems no excuse for Ann to delay matters. 

Please let me know what you now intend for the dispute resolution.

Regards / Max

To: wgprc@lists.greenparty.org.uk
From: Owen Clarke 
Date: 15/04/2013 21:00
Cc: DRC <DRC@lists.greenparty.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [WGPC] Complaint over Cardiff Branch for regional dispute resolution

Dear Max
Since there is not yet a Wales Disputes Resolution Committee I suggest
that you should use the services of the E&WGP Dispute Resolution
Committee.  As an initial step I suggest meeting you in Cardiff as the
resolver to discuss your views of the situation before going to Cardiff
& Vale GP to learn their views and then preparing for a resolution meeting with both sides.
All the best
Owen

To: Max Wallis <wallismk@cardiff.ac.uk>
From: Owen Clarke 
Date: 29/04/2013 23:08
Subject: Working towards a resolution
Dear Max
I would like to meet you in Cardiff for a quiet chat about ways in which a resolution could be found between yourself and Cardiff&Vale Green Party. Any time after 11:00 would be suitable for me on Wednesday,Thursday or Friday of this week.
Please let me know your choice.
All the best
Owen Clarke

To: Owen Clarke, "wgprc@lists.greenparty.org.uk"
From: ann were 
Date: 16/04/2013 17:41
Cc: DRC <DRC@lists.greenparty.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [WGPC] Complaint over Cardiff Branch for regional dispute resolution

Dear Owen,
Thank you for that information. I hadn't realised that that part had been deleted. Fortunately for me, I have never had to call on the services of DRC so I don't have much personal experience of its workings.
However, your information does strengthen my argument for at least attempting to deal with all these issues at the next WGPC meeting before moving forward with formal complaint procedures.
There does not seem much point in bringing in DRC if one or both or the parties are not genuinely interested in finding a resolutiion.
 Ann Were.
>________________________________
> From: Owen Clarke
>To: wgprc@lists.greenparty.org.uk
>Cc: DRC <DRC@lists.greenparty.org.uk>
>Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 18:24
>Subject: Re: [WGPC] Complaint over Cardiff Branch for regional dispute resolution
>Dear Ann
>Your information on DRC Standing Orders is out of date. Some years ago
>DRC did require both sides to request DRC assistance before DRC could
>take any action. This section of the DRC Standing Orders has been deleted.
>It is still true that in order to achieve a resolution both sides must
>eventually work with DRC towards that resolution.
>In general, making a formal complaint makes working towards resolution
>no longer possible, thus negating the possibility of reaching a solution
>acceptable to both sides and replacing it by a situation where one side
>must win and the other side must loose, creating more discord.
>All the best
>Owen

To: Owen Clarke , "wgprc@lists.greenparty.org.uk"
From: ann were
Date: 26/04/2013 16:16
Subject: Re: [WGPC] Max & Cardiff Green Party

It is my intention to try and discuss this at the WGPC meeting in May with the aim of achieving some sort of resolution.
Ann Were.
________________________________
> From: Owen Clarke
>To: wgprc@lists.greenparty.org.uk
>Sent: Friday, 26 April 2013, 17:28
>Subject: Re: [WGPC] Max & Cardiff Green Party
>
>Dear John
>For your information I have the following emails in the Cardiff & Vale
>section of my DRC cases file
>
>11/10/12 21:46 From Max Wallis to John Matthews and others
>12/10/12 17:15 From John Matthews to Max Wallis and others
>13/10/12 22:07 From Max Wallis To John Matthews and others
>07/04/13 21:49 From Max Wallis to Ann Were via wgprc@lists
>13/04/13 15:48 From Max Wallis to Ann Were via wgprc@lists
>15/04/13 15:51 From Ann Were to Max Wallis via wgprc@lists
>15/04/13 18:08 From Max Wallis to Ann Were via wgprc@lists
>15/04/13 18:08 From Max Wallis to Ann Were
>15/04/13 22:14 From Owen Clarke to wgprc@lists
>
>It is a concern of mine that due to my urgent commitment to informing
>the Welsh Assembly Government about the true situation of the
>opencasting at Varteg I have not been able to visit Cardiff to commence
>conversations aimed to bring about a resolution.
>
>All the best, Owen
>
>On 26/04/13 12:15, JOHN MATTHEWS wrote:
>> Hello
>> In my capacity as Chair of cardiff green party would someone be kind enough to inform me who the complainant is and what is the nature of the complaint as to date the local party is unawre of any complaint or dispute.
>> Regards
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dorothy Wilson
>> To: Wales Party Council <wgprc@lists.greenparty.org.uk>
>> Sent: Friday, 26 April 2013, 10:32
>> Subject: [WGPC] Max & Cardiff Green Party
>>
>> Dear all
>> Perhaps I'm not reading Owen's e-mails correctly,but as I understand it it would be FAR better for Max and Cardiff Green Party to use the exisiting Disputes Res.Committee (i.e.Owen Clarke et al) to try and resolve their differences before any formal complaints procedure is put into place if that is really necessary.  Is there any reason why the DRC cannot now try and resolve this matter?  
>> Dorothy